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What the hell is going on in Korean schools?!?!

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We found out a couple of days ago that teachers who are sexually abusive will be kicked out of schools (wow that DOES make sense Korea! Great thinking!!).

Maybe it’s because of incidents like this. How the hell do you be charged and sentenced to a jail term after sexually harassing a student and THEN BE REINSTATED?!?

“It only took five months since Park’s release from prison until he preyed on a juvenile victim again,” the court said.

This time, Park forcibly kissed his 15-year-old student during a class. Previously, Park harassed two elementary school girls in 2007 and was sent to jail for nine months.

I found this tidbit amusing as well:

A Seoul court said Tuesday the 49-year-old man, identified as Park, who studied at a U.S. college, was arrested for violating the Sexual Protection of Children and Juveniles Law. His nationality was not revealed.

Why would they bother to mention that his ‘nationality was not revealed’? It’s quite obvious the man is Korean (okay maybe that’s an assumption too but they didn’t have to mention anything about his nationality in the first place). If he was a foreigner, he wouldn’t even be in the country anymore!!


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November 25, 2009 at 10:46 am

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Fresh Graduates Earn W2.2 Million on Average

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This from the Chosun Ilbo.

Lot higher than the overall average salary and these figures from 2005 (I know, old data).

Pretty much on par with hagwon salaries of native English instructors (2.0-2.2) for fresh graduates. I know that you may say that native instructors get free housing which would amount to another 400,000 to 600,000 KRW per month (avg.). Keep in mind though, that many mid to large size firms hand out performance bonuses on a quarterly basis that could equal up to one month’s salary and sometimes even more.

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November 24, 2009 at 3:16 pm

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Do schools prefer F-2s over E-2s?

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Thanks to asmith for posing this question on this blog. I’ll give you the answer from my perspective but it’s pretty much the general consensus of schools that wish to go this route.

You’re right. F-visa holders are definitely the pickiest and arguably ‘hard to control’ by schools. However, IMO, I would say that F-2 holders (married to Korean) are definitely more pickier than F-4 holders (overseas Korean-gyopo). The former, because they are married, they are usually confined to a specific locale as they probably already have housing. Furthermore, if you are married to a Korean, in all likelihood, you’ve been here for a long time. You have a good idea of the market, what you want to teach, how you want to teach, and where you want to teach. Lastly, you’re not bound by silly visa laws that require you to work for only one place so you likely have a lot of side gigs (I know that most contracts, regardless of visas, don’t allow you to work elsewhere but honestly, who cares).

That being said, if a school is able to land a decent F-2 holder as opposed to an E-2 and can satisfy all their job requirements, it’s much better for the school. Why? The number one reason is that it’s cheaper. They don’t have to pay for a flight but more importantly, they don’t have to pay for housing (usually).

You may ask, then why don’t they just hire an F-4 holder? Lots of schools actually prefer F-4 holders but some want that ‘foreign look’ (hey I’m just stating what’s true). Because F-2s fit the mold of a ‘native-looking’ instructor but don’t come with the red-tape and cost of an E-2, they would rather go this route.

To answer your last question, F-2s aren’t necessarily confined to Seoul; it’s just that that’s where most of the F-2 instructors are but there are lots elsewhere as well. Also, keep in mind that most F-2 visa holders in Korea are housewives originating from southeast Asian countries living in rural Korea.

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November 24, 2009 at 10:23 am

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Why Are Female Bosses Less Welcome Than Male Ones?

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I know that this article mainly deals with corporate bosses. But which boss would you prefer and why? I never had a woman boss but from my 5 years experience in an office environment, I think I’d actually prefer one due to the abrasive qualities of my past bosses.

One positive finding was that both men and women said they ended up developing a favorable impression of female bosses after working under one. This was especially true for male respondents.

Believable but,

“Women bosses need to realize that employees get more energized when working under a boss who delegates ‘missions’ rather than one who tries to handle everything themselves,” Kang added.

Painting an entire sex with the same brush are we?

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November 23, 2009 at 9:28 pm

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Sexually Abusive Teachers to Be Kicked Out of School

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I got a kick out the title of this Korea Times piece. What the hell were they doing up to now?

Currently, delinquent teachers get away with punitive measures such as reduced wages and reprimands in cases of sexual molestation. These “light” punishments have invoked severe public criticism, forcing the ministry to take a tougher stance.

Meanwhile, native English teachers are getting tarred and feathered for something that is ‘expected of them’.

Due this to ridiculous lack of enforcement, I wonder how many Korean teachers committed these despicable acts because they thought that they could ‘get away with it’. Maybe Antienglishspectrum should get a hold of those stats.

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November 23, 2009 at 9:21 pm

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5 Ways to Make a Recruiter Hate You

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Thanks again to Mint Resumes for this great post. I laughed when I read this as it’s something that I could definitely relate to with my 4+ years of experience in this field.

There’s a lot of misunderstanding about how recruiters work and their role in a candidate’s job search. Many of us aren’t entirely clear about how to work with recruiters. But we are clear that a recruiter who detests you can stop your progress.

Here’s an idea. What if you knew five things that would make a recruiter hate you – I mean things that really irritate them – and you didn’t do them? Wouldn’t that speed up your search by eliminating a stumbling block? You bet it would.

Here they are:

1. Act as if you’re the only person they’re in contact with

Everyone knows that the way to get a recruiter’s attention is to monopolize their time, call frequently to make sure they’re on the job for you, and act as if their job is to get you a job, because it is, right?

Wake up. Recruiters are hired by companies to find the best candidates and help their client (the company) fill important positions more easily. I’ve said it before and here it is again – recruiters work for the companies that hire them.

Yes, they can’t get those candidates without having a huge contact list. Yes, you might be the right person for one of the positions they’ve got to fill. Yes, smart recruiters are very nice to work with.

But no, your helpful phone calls and pushy attitude won’t endear you.

The right way to do it is view the recruiter as an extension of the company. They’re the first screen. The recruiter can let you through the gate, but you’ve got to do more than that. You’ve got to give them a reason to champion your candidacy, not just support it.

Tell your story so well that the recruiter is excited about representing you to the company. When I worked with one of the best recruiters in Silicon Valley, she took extra care to get details from the top candidate that she knew would smooth the way for them.

2. Misunderstand your relationship with the recruiter

It’s great to develop a meaningful relationship with a recruiter. The last one you met was like your best friend – your sister, even. You could tell her everything – and did. The job didn’t work out, but, like, you’re buds, right?

Wrong. A recruiter may be friendly, but they are not your friend. You have a symbiotic relationship with them. Together and aligned, you can make wonderful things happen. To do that, be clear that they’re not a relative or friend.

You help the recruiter pay her mortgage, buy gas and put shoes on her children’s feet. But only if you have the skills to do the job and the social ability to fit into the work team and the company.

Don’t call the recruiter at midnight when your boyfriend dumps you. Don’t let them know that you just liquidated your 401K so that you won’t lose your house. Keep the conversation focused on the one thing that is important – being engaged in the process that leads you – step by step – to convince the people in the hiring company that you are the candidate they should make the offer to. Never forget that what you tell the recruiter will be circulated to the hiring company.

Finally, the recruiter is not your therapist.

3. Act as if they work for you

You’re bringing money to the recruiter because they get a huge commission with every placement – in fact, they’re swimming in cash. The more you think about it, you’re really the boss.

Sure. Believe that and call me immediately because I’ve just marked down the Brooklyn Bridge.

What the recruiter earns is none of your business. But for the record, companies are being more and more difficult with how much and the way recruiters are paid than ever before. Recruiting isn’t for the faint of heart. It’s time consuming, the clients are often tough to work with because they need someone excellent yesterday, and they have to sell the client on the top candidate.

Whoa! The recruiter has to sell the client? Yeah. It’s a shock, but there it is. The best recruiters know the people at their client company well, their likes and dislikes. Even though these are smart execs and managers, they want the recruiter to agree with them that Cal Montana is a great move for them – and for the company.

4. Lie

It’s no problem not to tell a recruiter the truth. They’ll never know and there’s no harm in it. Your friend Steve did it, got a great job offer and is working at the company of his dreams.

Lying to a recruiter is the same as lying to the hiring company. No matter when you do it, you’re placing your candidacy at risk. Don’t do it. Ever.

I’ve seen candidates who became employees fired more than ten years after the lie was told. Nothing will be worth it.

5. Be difficult and inconsiderate

You’re doing the recruiter a favor by helping them get their commission. And really, they should be taking your side on this little dispute with the company. So you said you’d call them yesterday and didn’t, so what? They’ll get over it when they get their check.

Attitude is important. In fact, even with more than the desired skills, if the recruiter doesn’t see you getting along well with interviewers and living up to your commitments, you’ll be toast.

They won’t get over it – they’ll get over you.

Every contact with the recruiter is an opportunity to prove that you’re a respectful, bright, capable person who will fit in and do the job. Don’t let yourself be lulled into complacency. A recruiter who sees a candidate unable to step up to the challenges of the hiring process will find a way to axe that person. Recruiters don’t win with clients when the candidate doesn’t stick and isn’t successful. You don’t have anything until you’ve started the job and completed the probation period. It’s critical to do your best all the time.

One candidate I worked with who was in the lead for a great job lost out because she wouldn’t agree to the title the company proposed. Know the ‘make or break’ and be aware of what you want vs. what you need.

I agree with all of the above EXCEPT the ‘swimming in money’ part (not all of us hehe).

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November 22, 2009 at 6:54 pm

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Teaching kids or adults?

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Of course this is only my opinion and my agency mostly deals with after school academies for children (generally aged 5 to 16) or public schools (elementary, middle, high school). We do receive requests for adult hagwons once in awhile but the vast majority are for the kiddies. If I was looking for a teaching position in Korea, there’s no doubt in my mind I would rather teach kids than adults. Here are my reasons.

1. The nasty split shift. This is probably the only dealbreaker for most that choose kids over adults (most, not all, adult hagwons have the split shift). Unless you like waking up at 5 every morning and finishing your day past midnight, teach children. There are big gaps in the middle of the day but it will suck even more if your house is not close by for a quick power nap. You’d be lucky to find an adult hagwon with a block schedule.

2. You’re scrutinized more when teaching adults. Kids are forced to go to hagwon. Thus, most of them usually don’t want to be there. If you create a fun environment for them, they will be happy, even if you’re not teaching them all that well (bad advice but the truth). Adults pay their own way (sometimes their companies do) so they want to get the most bang for their buck. If you’re a shitty instructor, expect them to go somewhere else and for you to get complaints from them and your director.

3. You usually have to work at least one weekend day. This is from my experience with these positions. Because this is when adults are usually not at work (goes hand in hand with the split shift) you probably have to work one of these days. I know that this may be the case for the kiddies as well but not as often as the adults.

4. The pay sucks. Well, it is somewhat inline with other kiddie positions but when considering all the negatives, it’s not worth it.

That’s all I could think of for now. Anyone else want to add more or refute any of this?

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November 22, 2009 at 6:47 pm

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